THE FIRING LINE Honeywell Flame Rod and Pilot Burner Cross Reference Cross Reference Data: HONEYWELL C7004 page 1 C7005 page 1 C7007 page 2 C7008 page 3 C7009 page 4 C7011 page 4 ID5200 page 4 Q179 pages 5-7 PYRONICS 3EN page 9 4EN page 9 PROTECTION CONTROLS R11 page 9 R12 page 9 R14 page 9 BARBER COLEMAN 1256 page 9 FIREYE™ 69ND1 page 9 NOTE: Some burner manufacturers make their own flame rods, which are not listed in this section. Generally, a functional replacement can be selected from the TRADELINE® or FLAME SAFEGUARD Catalogs. F.P. Rev. 11-93 70-8316 ©Honeywell Inc. 1993 C7004B FLAME ROD HOLDER Device to be Replaced C7004B1002 Current Replacement C7004B1002 C7004B1010 C7004B1028 C7004B1002 C7004B1028 Specifications of Device to be Replaced Mounting Flame Rod Flame Rod (Pipe Size) Diameter (in.) Used 2 2 in. pipe-setscrew 3/16 3 102709A,B,C,D,E or 102711 2 in. pipe-setscrew 3/16 (order separately) 2 3 1-1/4 in. pipe-setscrew 3/16 102709A,B,C,D,E or 102711 2 in. pipe-setscrew 3/16 (order separately) 2 3 1-1/4 in. threaded 3/16 1-1/4 in. threaded 3/16 102709A,B,C,D,E or 102711 (order separately) 1 1 C7004B1036 C7004B1044 C7004B1051 1 2 3 C7004B1002 C7004B1051 C7004B1051 Comments — AngIe body. — Angle body. — For positive pressure fire box. Replacement is not an angle body holder. 102709A-E Kanthal A1 Flame Rods. 102711 12-inch Globar Flame Rod. C7005 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY Specifications of Device to be Replaced Orifice Size (in.) Gas Type 0.082 Manufactured 0.082 Manufactured 0.052 Natural 0.052 Natural Device to be Replaced C7005A1003 C7005A1011 C7005A1029 C7005A1037 Current Replacement None None C7005A1037 C7005A1037 C7005A1045 C7005A1037 0.028 Propane C7005B1001 C7005B1019 C7005B1027 C7005B1035 None None C7005B1035 C7005B1035 0.082 0.082 0.052 0.052 Manufactured Manufactured Natural Natural C7005B models include ignition electrode. C7005B models include ignition electrode. C7005B models include ignition electrode. C7005B models include ignition electrode. C7005B1043 C7005B1035 0.028 Propane C7005B models include ignition electrode. C7005B1050 C7005B1068 C7005B1035 None 0.028 0.021 Propane Butane C7005B models include ignition electrode. C7005B models include ignition electrode. Comments — — — — 1 — 1 1 1 The orifice of the C7005 is in the venturi assembly. When replacing the C7005, use the existing venturi of the device being replaced. If a new venturi or a propane venturi is required, order according to Table 1. TABLE 1 Orifice Size (in.) 0.052 0.028 Venturi Part Number 100204B 101867B 1 C7007 FLAME ROD HOLDER Device to be Replaced C7007A1001 Current Replacement C7007A1001 C7007A1019 C7007A1001 C7007A1027 C7007A1001 C7007A1035 C7007A1001 Specifications of Device to be Replaced Mounting Flame Rod Flame Rod (Pipe Size) Diameter (in.) Used 1/2 in. NPT male 3/16 102709A,B,C or D (order separately) Comments — 1 1/2 in. NPT female 3/16 102709A,B,C or D (order separately) — 3/4 in. NPT female 3/16 102709A,B,C or D (order separately) — 1 in. NPT female 3/16 102709A,B,C or D (order separately) — 1 1 1 Use appropriate standard pipe coupling. 2 C7008 FLAME ROD AND HOLDER ASSEMBLIES Specifications of Device to be Replaced Device to be Replaced Current Tradeline Replacement Mounting (Pipe Size) Flame Rod Diameter (in.) Flame Rod Used Comments 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 6 12 — — 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 18 24 — — 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 6 Angle pattern. 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 12 Angle pattern. 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 18 Angle pattern. 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 24 Angle pattern. 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 6 12 Less cover. Less cover. 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 18 24 Less cover. Less cover. 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 27 — 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., 3/16 in., 3/16 in., 3/16 in., 3/16 in., 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded one end 6-32 NC threaded one end 6-32 NC threaded one end 6-32 NC threaded one end 6-32 NC threaded one end 6-32 NC threaded 18 24 12 12 12 24 — — 1/4 in. NPT male 3/16 in., one end 6-32 NC threaded 4-1/2 1 C7008A1000 C7008A1018 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 C7008A1026 C7008A1034 C7008A1182 C7008A1182 C7008A1042 C7008A1174 1 1 3 3 C7008A1059 C7008A1174 1 C7008A1067 C7008A1182 3 3 C7008A1075 C7008A1182 1 C7008A1083 C7008A1091 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 C7008A1109 C7008A1117 C7008A1182 C7008A1182 C7008A1125 C7008A1182 1 2 1 C7008A1133 C7008A1141 C7008A1158 C7008A1166 C7008A1174 C7008A1182 C7008A1182 C7008A1182 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 C7008A1182 C7008A1190 C7008A1174 1 1 2 3 Cut flame rod to length. Replacement has 24-inch flame rod. Replacement is straight pattern. 3 Less cover. Less cover and Rajah connector. TRADELINE® . TRADELINE® . C7009, C7011 AND lD5200 FLAME ROD ASSEMBLIES AND HOLDERS Specifications of Device to be Replaced Device to be Replaced C7009A1009 Current Replacement C7009A1009 C7009A1017 C7009A1025 C7009A1025 C7009A1025 C7009A1033 C7009A1009 Mounting (Pipe Size) 1/8 in. NPT male Flame Rod Diameter 3/16 in. one end 3-56NF-2A threaded Flame Rod Length (in.) 4 1/8 in. NPT male 1/8 in. NPT male 3/16 in. one end 3-56NF-2A threaded 3/16 in. one end 3-56NF-2A threaded 8 12 — — 1/8 in. NPT male 3/16 in. one end 3-56NF-2A threaded 2-1/2 — Comments — 1 1 1 C7009A1041 C7009A1058 C7009A1025 C7009A1058 1/8 in. NPT male 1/8 in. NPT male 3/16 in. one end 3-56NF-2A threaded 3/16 in. one end 3-56NF-2A threaded — 9 Less flame rod. C7011A1005 None 1-1/4 in. pipe-setscrew 3/16 in. — Use 102709A,B,C,D, or E rod (order separately). 1D5200A1X C7007A1001 3/4 in. NPT female 3/16 in. — Use 102709A,B,C,D, or E rod (order separately). 1D5200A2X C7007A1001 1 in. NPT female 3/16 in. — Use 102709A,B,C,D, or E rod (order separately). — 3 2 3 2 1 2 3 3 Cut flame rod to length. Replacement C7007A1001 has 1/2 in. NPT male mounting. Use appropriate standard pipe coupling. Kanthal A1. 4 Q179 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY Device to be Replaced Q179A1001 Specifications of Device to be Replaced Gas Type 1 (Orifice Size—Inches) Port and Burner Tip Natural I Current Replacement Q179A1001 With Ignition Electrode Yes Comments 2 Q179A1019 Q179A1027 Q179A1035 Q179A1001 + 47540 None Q179A1035 LP Natural Natural I 45 Degree l 45 Degree Right-Hand Yes Yes Yes — — — Q179A1043 Q179A1050 Q179A1035 + 47540 Q179A1050 LP Natural 45 Degree Right-Hand T Yes Yes — — Q179A1068 Q179A1076 Q179A1050 + 47540 Q179A1076 LP Natural T 45 Degree Y Yes Yes — — Q179A1084 Q179A1092 Q179A1976 + 47540 Q179A1092 LP Natural 45 Degree Y 45 Degree T Yes Yes — — Q179A1100 Q179A1118 Q179A1126 Q179A1134 Q179A1092 + 47540 Q179A1118 Q179A1126 None LP Natural Natural Natural 45 Degree T 45 Degree Left-Hand I 45 Degree Left-Hand Yes Yes Yes Yes — — High temperature. High temperature. Q179A1142 Q179A1159 Q179A1050 + 133450A None Natural Natural T T Yes Yes Special electrode. Right-hand electrode. Q179A1167 Q179A1167 Natural I Yes Special orifice. Q179A1175 Q179A1050 + 133449A Natural T Yes Left-hand electrode. 2 2 2 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 See page 8. Replacement must be modified with 0.013 inch LP gas orifice, part no. 47540. Part no. 133450A, 45 degree I port flame rod and insulator assembly. 0.028 inch diameter orifice. Part no. 133449A, right-hand, 90 degree flame rod and insulator assembly. 5 Q179 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY (continued) Specifications of Device to be Replaced Device to be Replaced Current Replacemment 1 Gas (Orifice) Type Port Type With Ignition Electrode Comments 6 Q179B1000 Q179A1001 2 Q179B1018 Q179B1026 Q179A1001 + 47540 None Q179B1034 Q179B1042 Q179A1035 + 47540 Q17901042 Q179B1059 Q17901042 + 47540 3 2 2 3 Natural I No LP Natural I 45 Degree l No No LP Natural 45 Degree Right-Hand T No No LP T No Natural 45 Degree Y No LP 45 Degree Y No Natural 45 Degree T No Natural Natural Natural Natural Natural 45 Degree Right-Hand 45 Degree Left-Hand I (Large) I 45 Degree Left-hand No No No No No High temperature. High temperature. Natural Natural Natural Natural I T 45 Degree T I No No No No Special electrode. Right-hand electrode. Special orifice. High temperature. Natural T No Proprietary to Cleaver Brooks. 6 6 3 6 Q179B1067 Q179A1076 2 Q179B1075 3 6 Q179A1076 + 47540 6 Q179B1083 Q179A1092 6 Q179B1091 Q179B1109 Q179B1117 Q179B1125 Q179B1133 Q179A1035 None Q179B1117 None None Q179B1141 Q179B1158 Q179B1166 Q179B1174 Q179A1001 + 133450A None None None 2 5 Q179B1182 1 2 3 4 5 6 6 5 Q179B1182 See page 8. Current replacement must be modified with special part (orifice or special electrode). Part no. 47540, 0.013 inch LP orifice. Part no. 133450A, 45 degree I port flame rod and insulator assembly. Available from proprietary OEM only. Replacement has ignition electrode in addition to flame electrode (rod). 6 Q179 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY (continued) 1 Specifications of Device to be Replaced Gas Type 1 (Orifice Size—Inches) Burner Tip and Mounting Natural (0.026) D1 tip, rear mount Natural (0.024) K3 tip, rear mount Natural (0.024) L4 tip, rear mount Natural (0.026) D7 tip, Ieft-side mount Natural (0.026) D8 tip, right-side mount Natural (0.024) L10 tip, Ieft-side mount Natural (0.024) K11 tip, right-side mount Device to be Replaced Q179C1009 Q179C1017 Q179C1025 Q179C1033 Q179C1041 Q179C1058 Q179C1066 Current Replacement Q179C1009 None Q179C1025 Q179C1033 Q179C1041 Q179C1058 Q179C1066 Q179C1074 Q179C1082 Q179C1009 None Natural (0.026) Natural (0.026) D1 tip, rear mount K11 tip, lef-side mount Yes Yes With 2 in. wing span target. Rheem Manufacturing special. Q179D1008 Q179D1016 Q179D1024 Q179D1032 Q179D1057 Q179D1065 Q179D1925 Q179D1008 Q179D1016 Q179D1024 Q179D1032 Q179D1057 None Q179D1925 Natural (0.026) Natural (0.026) Natural (0.026) Natural (0.026) Natural (0.024) LP (0.016) LP (0.016) D1 tip, rear mount D7 tip, left-side mount D8 tip, right-side mount D1 tip, rear mount L10 tip, left-side mount D1 tip, rear mount D1 tip, rear mount No No No No No No No — — — With 2 in. wing span target. — — With 2 in. wing span target. See page 8. 7 With Ignition Electrode Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Comments — — — — — — — Q179 PILOT BURNER AND FLAME ROD ASSEMBLY (PORTS, BURNER TIPS AND MOUNTING) Q179C OR D Q179A,B E A D1 - D TIP DUAL WING TARGET REAR MOUNT D7 - D TIP DUAL WING TARGET LEFT-SIDE MOUNT D2 - D TIP DUAL WING TARGET FRONT MOUNT D8 - D TIP DUAL WING TARGET RIGHT-SIDE MOUNT 45° LEFT HAND "ELL" "I" PORT F L10 - L TIP SINGLE WING LEFT-HAND TARGET LEFT-SIDE MOUNT "T" PORT 1 B 45° "I" PORT Q179C ONLY K3 - K TIP SINGLE WING RIGHT-HAND TARGET REAR MOUNT G 45° "Y" PORT L4 - L TIP SINGLE WING LEFT-HAND TARGET REAR MOUNT D 45° RIGHT HAND "ELL" H K9 - K TIP SINGLE WING RIGHT-HAND TARGET LEFT-SIDE MOUNT K11 - K TIP SINGLE WING RIGHT-HAND TARGET RIGHT-SIDE MOUNT K5 - K TIP SINGLE WING RIGHT-HAND TARGET FRONT MOUNT 45° "T" PORT L12 - L TIP SINGLE WING LEFT-HAND TARGET RIGHT-SIDE MOUNT 1 L6 - L TIP SINGLE WING LEFT-HAND TARGET FRONT MOUNT NOTE THAT GROUND PRONG IS CUT OFF CLOSE TO BASE. M5007 NOTE: 8 MOUNTING NUMBER DESIGNATES BOTH BRACKET TYPE AND TARGET CONFIGURATION. DESCRIPTION REFERENCE POINT IS FROM BACK OF BURNER TARGET. M2871 COMPETITIVE FLAME ROD AND HOLDER ASSEMBLIES Specifications of Device to be Replaced 3 Device to be Replaced Pyronics Current Tradeline Replacement 3EN6 C7008A1174 3EN12 4EN6 4EN12 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 1 Mounting (Pipe Size) 2 1 1 2 1 Rod Diameter (in.) Flame Rod Length (in.) Comments 3/8 in. NPT male 1/8 6 Angle body. 3/8 in. NPT male 1/8 12 Angle body. 1/2 in. NPT male 1/8 6 Angle body. 1/2 in. NPT male 1/8 12 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 1/8 6 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 1/8 12 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 1/8 18 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 1/8 24 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 3/16 6 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 3/16 12 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 3/16 18 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 3/16 24 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 1/4 6 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 1/4 12 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 1/4 18 Angle body. 3/4 in. NPT male 1/4 24 Angle body. 1/4 in. lPS male 1/4 in. lPS male Unknown Unknown 6 12 Angle body. Angle body. 1/4 in. IPS male 1/4 in. IPS male Unknown Unknown 6 12 — — 1/2 in. NPT male Unknown 12 1/2 in. NPT male Unknown 18 1/2 in. NPT male Unknown 24 Protection Controls R1106 R1112 R1118 R1124 R1206 R1212 R1218 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 C7008A1182 C7008A1182 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 C7008A1182 R1224 C7008A1182 R1406 C7008A1174 R1412 R1418 R1424 C7008A1174 C7008A1182 C7008A1182 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 Barber Coleman 1256-14-6 1256-14-12 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 1256-4-6 1256-4-12 C7008A1174 C7008A1174 2 2 Fireye™ 69ND1 1000K4 69ND1 1000K6 69ND1 1000K8 1 2 3 C7008A1174 C7008A1182 C7008A1182 1 1 1 2 Use appropriate standard pipe coupling. Cut flame rod to length. In some cases, the current replacement has a different mounting means, flame rod length and/or diameter, and a different body style. These should be checked before making a replacement. A pilot turndown 9 test should be performed after making a replacement. Helping You Control Your World Printed in U.S.A.