Analog Devices Welcomes Hittite Microwave Corporation NO CONTENT ON THE ATTACHED DOCUMENT HAS CHANGED www.analog.com www.hittite.com THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK HMC870LC5 v05.0614 OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz Typical Applications Features The HMC870LC5 is ideal for: Wide Supply Range from 3.3V to 7V • 10 Gbps NRZ MZ & Low VΠ Modulator Driver Adjustable Output Amplitude: 2.5 to 8 Vp-p • 10 Gbps RZ Transmission Low Additive RMS Jitter, <300 fs • 40 Gbps DQPSK Low DC Power Consumption 1W for Vout = 8 Vp-p at Vdd = 7V • Broadband Gain Block for Test & Measurement Equipment Cross Point Adjustment • Military & Space 32 Lead 5x5mm SMT Package: 25mm² Functional Diagram General Description The HMC870LC5 is a GaAs MMIC pHEMT Distributed Driver Amplifier packaged in a leadless 5x5 mm surface mount package which operates between DC and 20 GHz. The amplifier provides 17 dB of gain, 8Vp-p saturated output swing and features output swing cross point adjustment. Gain flatness is excellent at ±0.5 dB as well as very low additive RMS jitter of 300 fs for 10 Gbps operation. HMC870LC5 provides Metro and Long Haul designers with scalable power dissipation for varying output drive requirements. (<0.4W at Vout = 3.6 Vp-p and <1W at Vout = 8.5 Vp-p) The HMC870LC5 has a very wide supply (Vdd) operating range from +3.3V to +7V, and the RF I/Os are internally matched to 50 Ohms. Electrical Specifications, TA = +25° C, Vdd = 7V, Vctl = 1V, Idd = 165mA* Parameter Gain Small Signal Bandwidth Conditions Min. Typ. Max. Units Frequency = 1 - 8 GHz Frequency = 8 - 16 GHz Frequency = 16 - 20 GHz 14 13 12 17.5 16.5 16 dB dB dB 3-dB cutoff 20 GHz Input Return Loss Frequency = 1 - 10 GHz Frequency = 10 - 20 GHz 20 15 dB dB Output Return Loss Frequency = 1 - 10 GHz Frequency = 10 - 20 GHz 20 15 dB dB Gain Variation over Temperature Frequency = 1 - 10 GHz Frequency = 10 - 20 GHz 0.015 0.032 Group Delay Variation Frequency = 1 - 12 GHz ±15 ps Saturated Output Power (Psat) Frequency = 1 - 12 GHz Frequency = 12 - 20 GHz 24 23 dBm dBm 0.02 0.045 dB/°C dB/°C * Adjust Vgg between -2V to 0V to achieve Idd= 165 mA typical. 1 For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz Electrical Specifications, TA = +25° C, Vdd = 7V, Vctl = 1V, Idd = 165mA* Continued Output Power for 1 dB Compression (P1dB) Conditions Min. Typ. Frequency = 1 - 12 GHz Frequency = 12 - 20 GHz 19 18 22 21 dBm dBm ps Rise Time [1] 20% - 80% 20 Fall Time [1] 20% - 80% 20 Additive RMS Jitter [2] Max. ps 300 Supply Current (Idd) (Vgg = -0.6V Typ.) Units 165 fs mA Bias Current Adjust (Vgg) -2 0 V Output Voltage Adjust (Vctl) 0 2 V Max. Units [1] Data input = 22.5 Gbps NRZ PRBS 2 -1 pattern, 1.2 Vp-p. [2] RMS jitter is calculated with 22.5 Gbps 10101... pattern. * Adjust Vgg between -2V to 0V to achieve Idd = 165 mA typical. 23 Electrical Specifications, TA = +25° C, Vdd = 5V, Vctl = 1V, Idd = 140mA* Parameter Gain Small Signal Bandwidth Conditions Min. Typ. Frequency = 1 - 8 GHz Frequency = 8 - 16 GHz Frequency = 16 - 20 GHz 14 13.5 12 17.5 17.0 16.5 dB dB dB 3-dB cutoff 20 GHz Input Return Loss Frequency = 1 - 10 GHz Frequency = 10 - 20 GHz 20 15 dB dB Output Return Loss Frequency = 1 - 10 GHz Frequency = 10 - 20 GHz 15 10 dB dB Gain Variation over Temperature Frequency = 1 - 10 GHz Frequency = 10 - 20 GHz 0.016 0.029 Group Delay Variation Frequency = 1 - 12 GHz ±15 deg Saturated Output Power (Psat) Frequency = 1 - 12 GHz Frequency = 12 - 20 GHz 22.5 22 dBm dBm Output Power for 1 dB Compression (P1dB) Frequency = 1 - 12 GHz Frequency = 12 - 20 GHz 20.5 20 dBm dBm 18 17 0.02 0.045 dB/°C dB/°C Rise Time [1] 20% - 80% 20 ps Fall Time [1] 20% - 80% 20 ps Additive RMS Jitter [2] 300 Supply Current (Idd) (Vgg = -0.6V Typ.) 140 OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT Parameter fs mA Bias Current Adjust (Vgg) -2 0 V Output Voltage Adjust (Vctl) 0 2 V [1] Data input = 22.5 Gbps NRZ PRBS 2 -1 pattern, 1.2 Vp-p. [2] RMS jitter is calculated with 22.5 Gbps 10101... pattern. * Adjust Vgg between -2V to 0V to achieve Idd = 140 mA typical. 23 For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] 2 HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz 25 15 15 5 RESPONSE (dB) RESPONSE (dB) Gain & Return Loss @ Vdd = 5V 25 S21 S11 S22 -5 -15 -25 S21 S11 S22 -5 -15 -35 0 4 8 12 16 20 0 4 FREQUENCY (GHz) Gain & Return Loss @ Vdd = 3.3V 20 20 5 GAIN (dB) S21 S11 S22 -5 15 +25C +85C -40C 10 -15 5 -25 0 4 8 12 16 0 20 0 4 FREQUENCY (GHz) 12 16 20 Gain vs. Temperature @ Vdd = 3.3V 20 20 GAIN (dB) 25 15 +25C +85C -40C 10 8 FREQUENCY (GHz) 25 5 0 16 25 15 -35 12 Gain vs. Temperature @ Vdd = 7V 25 GAIN (dB) 8 FREQUENCY (GHz) Gain vs. Temperature @ Vdd = 5V 15 +25C +85C -40C 10 5 0 4 8 12 FREQUENCY (GHz) 3 5 -25 -35 RESPONSE (dB) OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT Gain & Return Loss @ Vdd = 7V 16 20 0 0 4 8 12 16 20 FREQUENCY (GHz) For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz P1dB vs. Temperature @ Vdd = 7V Psat vs. Temperature @ Vdd = 7V 30 +25C +85C -40C 27 PSAT (dBm) P1dB (dBm) 27 24 21 18 24 21 +25C +85C -40C 18 15 15 0 4 8 12 16 20 0 4 8 FREQUENCY (GHz) 28 24 24 OUTPUT POWER (dBm) OUTPUT POWER (dBm) 28 20 +25C +85C -40C 16 12 8 -2 0 2 4 6 16 8 10 12 +25C +85C -40C 12 14 -6 -4 -2 0 INPUT POWER (dBm) 4 6 8 10 12 14 0.9 1 Peak-to-Peak Output Voltage vs. Vdd @ 11.25 Gbps [1] 10 P-P OUTPUT VOLTAGE (Vp-p) 28 OUTPUT POWER (dBm) 2 INPUT POWER (dBm) Output Power vs. Input Power @ 10 GHz, Vdd = 3.3V +25C +85C -40C 24 20 16 12 8 20 20 8 -4 16 Output Power vs. Input Power @ 10 GHz, Vdd = 5V Output Power vs. Input Power @ 10 GHz, Vdd = 7V -6 12 FREQUENCY (GHz) OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT 30 -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 INPUT POWER (dBm) 8 6 4 Vdd = 3.3V Vdd = 5V Vdd = 6V Vdd = 7V 2 0 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 Vctl (V) [1] Data input = 11.25 Gbps NRZ PRBS 223-1 pattern, 1.2 Vp-p. For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] 4 HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz Peak-to-Peak Output Voltage vs. Vdd @ 22.5 Gbps [1] Rise Time vs. Vdd @ 22.5 Gbps [1] 25 20 RISE TIME (ps) P-P OUTPUT VOLTAGE (Vp-p) 8 6 4 Vdd = 3.3V Vdd = 5V Vdd = 6V Vdd = 7V 5 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 0 1 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 Fall Time vs. Vdd@ 22.5 Gbps [1] 20 250 RMS JITTER (fs) 300 15 Vdd = 3.3V Vdd = 5V Vdd = 6V Vdd = 7V 0.7 0.8 0.9 1 0.9 1 Vdd = 3.3V Vdd = 5V Vdd = 6V Vdd = 7V 200 150 5 100 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 Vctl (V) 20 15 15 10 Vdd = 3.3V Vdd = 5V Vdd = 6V Vdd = 7V 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.7 0.8 10 0.6 0.7 Vdd=3.3V Vdd=5V Vdd=6V Vdd=7V 5 0 0 0.6 Peak-to-Peak Jitter vs. Vdd @ 22.5 Gbps [1][4] 20 5 0.5 Vctl (V) P-P JITTER (ps) P-P JITTER (ps) 0.6 RMS Jitter vs. Vdd @ 22.5 Gbps [2] 25 10 0.5 Vctl (V) Vctl (V) Peak-to-Peak Jitter vs. Vdd @ 11.25 Gbps [3][4] 0.8 0.9 1 Vctl (V) [1] Data input = 22.5 Gbps NRZ PRBS 223-1 pattern, 1.2 Vp-p. [2] RMS jitter is measured with 22.5 Gbps 10101... pattern. 5 15 10 Vdd = 3.3V Vdd = 5V Vdd = 6V Vdd = 7V 2 0 FALLTIME (ps) OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT 10 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9 1 Vctl (V) [3] Data input = 11.25 Gbps NRZ PRBS 223-1 pattern, 1.2 Vp-p. [4] Source jitter was not de-embedded. For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz Supply Current vs. Vdd @ 22.5 Gbps [1] Noise Figure vs. Temperature @ Vdd = 7V +25C +85C -40C 5 160 120 80 40 Vdd = 3.3V Vdd = 5V Vdd = 6V Vdd = 7V 0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 4 3 2 1 0.8 0.9 1 0 0 2 4 6 Vctl (V) 8 10 12 14 16 18 FREQUENCY (GHz) [1] Data Input = 22.5 Gbps NRZ PRBS 223-1 pattern, 1.2 Vp-p 11.25 Gbps NRZ Output Eye Diagram Measurements Current Min Max Units Eye Amplitude 3.6 3.6 3.6 V Rise Time 20 20 20 ps Fall Time 21.33 20.67 22 ps Jitter RMS 1.893 1.87 2.072 ps Time scale: 30.0 ps/div Amplitude scale: 762 mV/div Vdd = 3.3V, Vin: 11.25 Gbps NRZ PRBS 231-1, 0.5 Vp-p Vout: 3.6Vp-p Vctl = 1V OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT 6 NOISE FIGURE (dB) SUPPLY CURRENT (mA) 200 11.25 Gbps NRZ Output Eye Diagram Measurements Current Min Max Units Eye Amplitude 7.47 7.47 7.47 V SNR 17.97 17.88 18.12 V/V Time scale: 30.0 ps/div Amplitude scale: 1.17 V/div Vdd = 5V, Vin: 11.25Gbps NRZ PRBS 231-1, 1.2V p-p, Vout: 7.5Vp-p Vctl = 1V For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] 6 HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz 11.25 Gbps NRZ Output Eye Diagram (Continued) OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT Measurements Current Min Max Eye Amplitude 8.26 8.26 8.27 Units V SNR 22.35 22.26 22.51 V/V Time scale: 30.0 ps/div Amplitude scale: 1.17 V/div Vdd = 7V, Vin: 11.25Gbps NRZ PRBS 231-1, 1.2V p-p, Vout: 8.3Vp-p Vctl = 1V 22.5 Gbps NRZ Output Eye Diagram Measurements Current Min Max Units Eye Amplitude 3.53 3.53 3.54 V Rise Time 18.22 17.33 18.22 ps Fall Time 20.44 19.56 20.89 ps Jitter RMS 2.417 2.187 2.422 ps Time scale: 20.0 ps/div Amplitude scale: 762 mV/div Vdd = 3.3V, Vin: 22.5Gbps NRZ PRBS 231-1, 0.5V p-p, Vout: 3.5Vp-p Vctl = 1V 22.5 Gbps NRZ Output Eye Diagram Measurements Current Min Max Units Eye Amplitude 7.85 7.84 7.85 V SNR 13.74 13.69 14.07 V/V Time scale: 20.0 ps/div Amplitude scale: 1.17 V/div Vdd = 7V, Vin: 22.5Gbps NRZ PRBS 231-1, 1.2 V p-p, Vout: 7.9Vp-p Vctl = 1V 7 For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz 11.25 Gbps RZ Output Eye Diagram Current Units Jitter RMS 1.93 ps Bit Rate 11.2 Gb/s Time scale: 40.0 ps/div Amplitude scale: 1.22 V/div Vdd = 3.3V, Vin: 11.25Gbps RZ PRBS 231-1, 0.3V p-p, Vout: 2.9Vp-p Vctl = 1V 11.25 Gbps RZ Output Eye Diagram Measurements Current Min Max Units Duty Cycle 51.5 50.4 57.1 % SNR 20.85 13.35 20.96 V/V Jitter RMS 1.753 1.689 1.795 ps Eye Amplitude 2.85 2.37 2.86 V Time scale: 30.0 ps/div Amplitude scale: 647 mV/div Vdd = 5V, Vin: 11.25Gbps RZ PRBS 231-1, 1.2V p-p, Vout: 6Vp-p Vctl = 1V Absolute Maximum Ratings Drain Bias Voltage (Vdd) +9V Gate Bias Voltage (Vgg) -2V to 0V Control Bias Voltage (Vctl) Typical Supply Current vs. Vdd* Vdd (V) Idd (mA)* Power Dissipation (W) (Vdd -7) to Vdd (V) +3.3 100 0.33 RF Input Power (RFIN)(Vdd = +7 Vdc) +23 dBm +5.0 140 0.70 Channel Temperature 175 °C +6.0 160 0.96 +7.0 165 1.115 Continuous Pdiss (T = 85 °C) (derate 24 mW/°C above 85 °C) 1.5 W Thermal Resistance (channel to ground paddle) 59.4 °C/W Storage Temperature -65 to +150 °C Operating Temperature -40 to +85 °C ESD Sensitivity (HBM) Class 1A OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT Measurements * Adjust Vgg between -2V to 0V to achieve Idd shown. ELECTROSTATIC SENSITIVE DEVICE OBSERVE HANDLING PRECAUTIONS For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] 8 HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT Outline Drawing NOTES: 1. PACKAGE BODY MATERIAL: ALUMINA 2. LEAD AND GROUND PADDLE PLATING: 30-80 MICROINCHES GOLD OVER 50 MICROINCHES MINIMUM NICKEL. 3. DIMENSIONS ARE IN INCHES [MILLIMETERS]. 4. LEAD SPACING TOLERANCE IS NON-CUMULATIVE. 5. PACKAGE WARP SHALL NOT EXCEED 0.05mm DATUM -C6. ALL GROUND LEADS AND GROUND PADDLE MUST BE SOLDERED TO PCB RF GROUND. Package Information Part Number Package Body Material Lead Finish HMC870LC5 Alumina, White Gold over Nickel MSL Rating MSL3 [1] Package Marking [2] H870 XXXX [1] Max peak reflow temperature of 260 °C [2] 4-Digit lot number XXXX 9 For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz Pin Descriptions Pin Number Description N/C The pins are not connected internally; however, all data shown herein was measured with these pins connected to RF/DC ground externally. 2 Vctl Output voltage swing adjustment. +1V should be applied to Vctl for nominal operation. 5 RFIN This pin is DC coupled and matched to 50 Ohms. 6, 20 GND RF/DC Ground. These pins and the package base must be connected to RF/DC ground. 13 Vgg Gate Control for amplifier. 15 ACG4 Interface Schematic Low frequency termination. Attach bypass capacitor per application circuit herein. 16 ACG3 21 RFOUT & Vdd 29 ACG2 30 ACG1 RF output for amplifier. Connect the DC bias (Vdd) network to provide drain current (Idd). See application circuit herein. Low frequency termination. Attach bypass capacitor per application circuit herein. For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT Function 1, 3, 4, 7 - 12, 14, 17 - 19, 22 - 28, 31, 32 10 HMC870LC5 v05.0614 OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz Application Circuit NOTE 1: Drain Bias (Vdd) must be applied through a broadband bias tee or external bias network. 11 For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT Evaluation PCB List of Materials for Evaluation PCB 108347 Item Description J1 - J2 PCB Mount SMA Connector J3 - J4 2mm Molex Header C1, C2 100 pF Capacitor, 0402 Pkg. C3 - C6 1000 pF Capacitor, 0603 Pkg. C7 - C9 4.7 µF Capacitor, Tantalum U1 HMC870LC5, Modulator Driver PCB [2] 109765 Evaluation PCB [1] Reference this number when ordering complete evaluation PCB [2] Circuit Board Material: Arlon 25FR or Rogers 4350 [1] The circuit board used in the application should use RF circuit design techniques. Signal lines should have 50 Ohm impedance while the package ground leads and package bottom should be connected directly to the ground plane similar to that shown. A sufficient number of via holes should be used to connect the top and bottom ground planes. The evaluation board should be mounted to an appropriate heat sink. The evaluation circuit board shown is available from Hittite upon request. For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] 12 HMC870LC5 v05.0614 MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT Device Operation 13 These devices are susceptible to damage from Electrostatic Discharge. Proper precautions should be observed during handling, assembly and test. The input to this device should be AC-coupled. To provide the typical 8Vp-p output voltage swing, a 1.2Vp-p AC-coupled input voltage swing is required. Device Power Up Instructions 1. Ground the device 2. Set Vgg to -2V (no drain current) 3. Set Vctl to +1V (no drain current) 4. Set Vdd to +5V (no drain current) 5. Adjust Vgg for Idd = 140mA • Vgg may be varied between -1V and 0V to provide the desired eye crossing point percentage (i.e. 50% crosspoint) and a limited cross point control capability. • Vdd may be increased to +7V if required to achieve greater output voltage swing. • Vctl may be adjusted between +2V and +0V to vary the output voltage swing. Device Power Down Instructions 1. Reverse the sequence identified above in steps 1 through 4. For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] HMC870LC5 v05.0614 OPTICAL & MODULATOR DRIVERS - SMT MZ OPTICAL MODULATOR DRIVER, DC - 20 GHz For price, delivery and to place orders: Hittite Microwave Corporation, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824 Phone: 978-250-3343 Fax: 978-250-3373 Order On-line at www.hittite.com Application Support: Phone: 978-250-3343 or [email protected] 14